Category: Interaction (with the outside World)

MediaWiki/Wikipedia has an interesting way of dealing with meta-data concerning a wiki page. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Infobox|Infobox] is very flexible and is very suitable to an encyclopedia. It's easy to create new ones and they are very flexible to adapt to the topic. As soon as a bunch of pages have something in common, you can create one and it gives visitors and quick overview of what characteristics this entry has.

There are over a hundred of these templates:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Infobox_templates

Here is a simple one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Animal

Here is a more advanced one where special language codes, when parsed, are shown with a nice presentation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Babel

This is a great way to have ad-hoc, organically growing meta-data around wiki pages which share some sort of structured/comparative data.

In TikiWiki, we use ((doc:trackers)) for tabular data. We need to have an even tighter integration.

Goal: that the metadata be stored both in the wiki page and the trackers
That you can update in one or the other. This would permit us to make lists/tables with all the data from all the infoboxes, without duplicating the data. (not sure if/how to do this with MediaWiki)

We'd need a Wiki Page field-type in trackers. Say I have an "Animals" tracker with all the Meta-Data. One of the fields should be the name of the associated wiki page. And that wiki pages "knows" to get latest data from tracker (like we do now for ((doc:PluginTrackerList)) and ((doc:PluginTrackerItemField)).



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[09:48] marclaporte: Say I have lots of data in various infoboxes, is it possible to make a report/list/table of all these infoboxes and have them link to the various wiki pages?
[09:48] Splarka: you can use Special:Whatlinkshere on each infobox
[09:48] Splarka: (sorta)
[09:49] marclaporte: tks, would you know of an example?
[09:51] Dantman|FS: SMW
[09:51] Dantman|FS: Doing that with data is basically the purpose of SMW
[09:52] Splarka: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Infobox_Aircraft
[09:52] marclaporte: There are some lists here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_software -> how to reuse that info in infoboxes on each page
[09:52] marclaporte: tks
[09:53] marclaporte: Splarka: : yes, that's what I am looking for
[10:05] marclaporte: Splarka: : So now I know where the template is used. What if I want to make a mega chart for all the planes from all the infoboxes?
[10:06] Splarka: well, that might be something more for the category system
[10:06] Splarka: (or ask Dan about SMW, unless he means Super Mario World)
[10:08] Dantman|FS: heh
[10:10] marclaporte: Dantman|FS: : What is SMW?
[10:10] Dantman|FS: Semantic MediaWiki
[10:10] Dantman|FS: http://semantic-mediawiki.com/
[10:11] Dantman|FS: It's an extension for MediaWiki
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!!Other things to think about:
*When watching a wiki page, how to watch tracker(s) which are associated with that wiki page?
*In page editing of tracker data, have a quick & nice interface like the ((doc:dynamic variable)) feature

Related:
*[wish2102|Support some of the MediaWiki syntax that doesn't conflict with TikiWiki syntax]
*[wish1191|Wiki editing: Preview with diff, like Mediawiki]
*[wish1781|Support for the Wiki creole markup (syntax)]
*[wish1220|MediaWiki import script]

I found the other day a chat that looks like is no more on develpment and is used to chat over irc (nice way to chat) is named Eteria IRC and u can find it at sourceforge (http://eirc.sourceforge.net/)

Might this be usefull to change the chat (that in my opinion) that does not work right.

I post this cuz the few times i used the tiki's chat module gave me a few problems with cpu usage and db's saturation

Hope u find this usefull for new vers for the tiki's chat module.

When I first met Tikiwiki, I was looking for only a wiki program. The translating for page (multilingual) feature of Tikiwiki made me to choose it.

But I always wonder: does Tikiwiki really need to have so many features ?

We all know that multi-features software is more complicated for developers as well as users than single-feature software. For example, Tikiwiki has a forum built-in, do you think this forum is better than phpBB3 ? Tikiwiki also has an article feature, do you think this feature is better than Joomla! CMS ?

At present, I have a website built with Joomla, I want to add a new wiki section, but Joomla has no wiki component. In fact, I think we should combine these best softwares together, not re-create the wheel. Joomla doesn't need to build a new wiki component if we can integrate Tikiwiki with it. In fact, this integration only needs at least one function: synchronize the users so they can login in to Tikiwiki without register twice.

I should inform you that Joomla! will be the most popular CMS soon, so I hope the Tikiwiki team take some time to consider this integration suggestion.

Thanks.

http://fotonotes.net/
http://wikifarm.koumbit.net/wikigraphe
http://kryogenix.org/code/browser/annimg/annimg.html



A nice usage example:
http://flickr.com/photos/36381329@N00/2190723280/

There's a Gedcom viewer (for Genealogy researchers) that's called PhpGedView (www.phpgedview.net) that looks like a completely awesome online family tree viewer/updater. Looks really well done. There is already a module written for it for PhpNuke, and I think it would be pretty cool if a module was written to interface it with TikiWiki.

If we had this, we'd use it on http://dev.tikiwiki.org

The Trac Repository Browser:
http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracBrowser

Let's coordinate here: ((Repository Browser)) and ((Code Review))

((doc:InterTiki)) permits to share login, preferences and groups between various Tiki sites.

We need the Sister Wiki too!
http://www.wikimatrix.org/wiki/feature:SisterWiki
Continue discussion here: ((Sister Wiki))

((doc:backlinks)) are very cool. But what about backlinks from other sites?

We could use list from:
http://doc.tiki.org/External+Wikis


Related:
[wish2086|Backlinks between trackers and wiki pages (and maybe forums)]
[wish1768|Tracker plugin to get title and make link to tracker item]

Button does not accept any separtators other than '_' in _text variable.

There are many reasons to create button with two or more words on it.

The plugin Exercise is a nice way to for students to get feedback on their learning. For an instructor or an admin it would be very useful to have a way of checking student's success. That way, the instructor could evaluate how easy the material is, or if certain students need extra help with something.

As far as I understand, right now exercise input data is not stored in the database so there is no way to track the exercise outcome. It would be great if a table could be added to the database where the this data could be stored and accessed.

Please see: ((tw:Viral Tiki))

XML files are cool for data interchange.

For example, you can create an xml file to feed a Flash animation. However, you still need to update that XML file via FTP. What if you could edit a wiki page (with permissions, history, etc) and have the Flash animation get the data from it as if it was xml?

Or maybe a button on a wiki page "save to .xml", which would save on the filesystem WikiPageName.xml? (where the Flash would know to look for it)

Related idea:
* {wish id=467}
* {wish id=3103}


Louis-Philippe Huberdeau --will look into-- used [http://www.yaml.org/|YAML] --to see if this could be useful-- and it is very useful for the ((Profile Manager))

I tried the mod blogroll with an example opml file from wikipedia, and the rss icons doesn't link to the expected mp3 but to the same url as the url of the browser in tiki (tiki-list_file_gallery.php?galleryId=1, tiki-admin_modules.php, ...)

This happened with this blogroll:
[http://static.userland.com/gems/radiodiscuss/playlist.opml]

The one I used for documentation. After fixing the problem, if so, please, check documentation page to see if it's correct (I didn't understand that much about the whole thing myself ...):
[http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Mod+blogroll]


Moreover, with this other opml file:
[http://www.scripting.com/feeds/top100.opml]

The rss icons point to xml files, but no text is shown between the number of the item and the rss icon. (error). See attached image to this tracker item.

That's what the mod descritpion says:
{CODE()}
author: mcfarland
last modification: 2006/12/22 01:49:26
by: mcfarland
features/phpcas/COPYRIGHT -> lib/phpcas/COPYRIGHT
features/phpcas/README -> lib/phpcas/README
features/phpcas/source/CAS/CAS.php -> lib/phpcas/source/CAS/CAS.php
features/phpcas/source/CAS/PGTStorage -> lib/phpcas/source/CAS/PGTStorage
features/phpcas/source/CAS/PGTStorage/pgt-db.php -> lib/phpcas/source/CAS/PGTStorage/pgt-db.php
features/phpcas/source/CAS/PGTStorage/pgt-file.php -> lib/phpcas/source/CAS/PGTStorage/pgt-file.php
features/phpcas/source/CAS/PGTStorage/pgt-main.php -> lib/phpcas/source/CAS/PGTStorage/pgt-main.php
features/phpcas/source/CAS/client.php -> lib/phpcas/source/CAS/client.php
features/phpcas/source/CAS/domxml-php4-php5.php -> lib/phpcas/source/CAS/domxml-php4-php5.php
features/phpcas/source/CAS/languages/english.php -> lib/phpcas/source/CAS/languages/english.php
features/phpcas/source/CAS/languages/french.php -> lib/phpcas/source/CAS/languages/french.php
features/phpcas/source/CAS/languages/greek.php -> lib/phpcas/source/CAS/languages/greek.php
features/phpcas/source/CAS/languages/languages.php -> lib/phpcas/source/CAS/languages/languages.php
{CODE}

And that's what it says to me when attempting to install it:
{CODE()}
Warning: mkdir(lib/phpcas/source/CAS/PGTStorage): File exists in c:\archivos de programa\easyphp1-8\www\branch-1-9\lib\mods\modslib.php on line 68

Warning: copy(mods/features/phpcas/source/CAS/PGTStorage/pgt-db.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in c:\archivos de programa\easyphp1-8\www\branch-1-9\lib\mods\modslib.php on line 375
features/phpcas/source/CAS/PGTStorage/pgt-db.php to lib/phpcas/source/CAS/PGTStorage/pgt-db.php impossible to copy
{CODE}

This should be discussed. Not decided if we want it.

This would be useful for the import from MediaWiki people because this is a setting in MediaWiki. Now, after import, users must go in each page and add maketoc.


This would be a site-wide setting (overrideable per workspace). Would need to have a way to turn off for a page (ex.: with a wiki syntax)

Please see:
http://www.wikimatrix.org/wiki/feature:nofollow
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2005/01/preventing-comment-spam.html

The Export feature is nice, but it would be nice to export/save wiki pages with html formatting intact. A way to edit offline then sync changes would be even better, but for now, I'd settle for a way to just view pages offline.

ML: You can ((doc:mail-in)) and ((doc:watch)) (mail-out), but no true sync

XML-RPC? IMAP?

http://www.socialtext.net/help-en/index.cgi?working_offline_with_unplugged

See: ((Offline))

Would be really nice to combine with an encrypted password manager for offline storage -> ((User Encryption))

((OpenAI))

Investigate:
http://openmicroblogging.org/

http://sourceforge.net/projects/orgapp/

See details here:
http://tikiwiki.org/OrgChartDev

Johan is working on an outlook connector for MyTiki <-> Outlook

Has anyone written a module to integrate PayPal's ecommerce capabilities into TikiWIki?

Should be done through a module and several plugins (ADD_TO_CART, SHOWCARTCONTENTS, CHECKOUT etc)...

Oh, on that one, I would love to have a plugin that invalidates the cache to make sure that inside a cached website there are pages that are always rendered fresh...


Related:
*[wish1808|Shopping Cart / ecommerce / online orders]
*((shopping cart))

The login settings page should be refactored to eliminate the presentation of unneeded configuration options.

We already are able to show articles, wiki page changes, etc on our calendar. So, how about showing RSS feeds on tiki-calendar.php? That would be a nice way to aggregate all the RSS feeds :-)

RSS feeds could be filtered much the same way as Group Calendars and Tools Calendars. A third column would be added with all available RSS feeds. Users could select via checkbox which RSS feeds they want. (By default none are selected)

Therefore, thanks to RSS in & out for calendars, several Tiki sites could federate calendar data via RSS.
http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-calendars_rss.php?ver=2

Later, we can add ical and hcalendar (http://www.microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar). But in the mean time, it's an easy & efficient solution for calendar sharing :-)

WebCalendar has a Remote Calendars feature to support hCalendar (for example)
http://webcalendar.cvs.sourceforge.net/webcalendar/webcalendar/edit_remotes_handler.php?revision=1.7&view=markup

Related:
[tiki-view_tracker_item.php?itemId=1607|Import/sync from RSS/ical and not just show]