Category: 25.x

Anchors are seriously screwed up in Tiki. There are a couple of issues. I've dug into the subject thoroughly and summarized my findings here:

http://volker-wysk.de/tiki/Anchors%20in%20Tiki.html

When URL is entered in a parenthesis it takes the closing one and includes it in the external link:

(E.g. Google -- https://google.com/)

The expected result would be that the ")" is not included as part of the link.

On a Tiki23 if the layout option is set with : Classic boostrap (Fixed top menu) the menu is lost when navigating on the admin pages.

The original website logo (brand icon) is changed for a Tiki icon making things more confusing.

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Bottom module is also lost...

All bootstrap themes or themes bootstrap adaptation will suffer from this problem.
This block upgrading websites.

At https://tiki.org/forum26 I see 2 search forms.
One at the top (look to me like the website general search)
One inside the forums "boundaries", above the forum title.

When I use the second Search form I redirected to the Tiki search page which doesn't allow me to search by forums, author, etc.
Basic tools a forum should have.

It should be possible to have dedicated tools (or at least how they look like) to search with Forums object fields.
We have everything needed in the unified index
parent_object_type
parent_object_id
lastpost_modification_date
object_typecontents
post_author
score
Etc...

I used https://tiki.org/forumthread78791-New-Wiki-pages-wont-take-the-Groups-default-Category and https://tiki.org/forumthread77665-What-is-the-Markdown-syntax-for-LaTeX-equations on Firefox.

It is about the first comment header and the last message elements.
Better separation between "section" is required (especially on mobile).

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For over a year (or even longer?) I have seen many times that I got, when I edited a bug report, I got both (!) success and failure indicated ''__at the same time__''. Now this happened when I edited the "Illogical sorting of the Wishlist" report, see screenshot.

Something in the inner workings of trackers is wrong. How can it be, that a tracker got successfully updated and it's ID is missing in one and the same request? See screenshot...

Thanks
hman

The following appeared at top of browser window, when opening most versions of tiki
Warning: in_array() expects parameter 2 to be array, bool given in binderlib.php on line 51

I changed: if (in_array($categId, $descendants)) {

to: if (in_array($categId, array($descendants))) {

Now the warning is gone.
IS this OK?

When the name of a new gallery is very long, an error occurs:
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This is to get a show instance to demonstrate / test issues with the https://hybridauth.github.io/ integration in Tiki

u: admin
p: 12345

On the Control Panel General Settings, tab Navigation, option "The URL that the anonymous user is redirected to when a page is not found" you can redirect anonymous users when then hit a page that doesn't exist.

However if your field value there a wiki page the redirect will go to a endless loop that will display a "Too much redirect" error.

If your value is the full URL (https://....) it work fine.

This problem is quite common and happen to a lot of users, even experimented.

The text for the option is not strict enough and for many "The URL..." is not necessary the full URL path.

! How to choose the right software library for tiki.

After reading the article that explain the best way to choose a software library for tiki (((https://dev.tiki.org/How-to-pick-a-software-library|pick_a_software_for_tiki))).

Related to the task ((https://avan.tech/item71402-Generate-Avatars-in-Tiki-until-users-upload-their-own|Generate Avatars in Tiki)), some research has been done to to try to find out witch libray will be good for tiki.
The choice of libray was based on some criteria:
- number of download
- number of dependances
- number of stars
- and easy to implement

The fist one is ((https://packagist.org/packages/multiavatar/multiavatar-php|Mutliavatar)), the library does not required extenal depences and everything has been design with a single class.
easy to use and generate SVG image with can be stored.

The sencond is ((https://packagist.org/packages/laravolt/avatar|Laravolt Avatar)) it has a large community and have more that 1M download.
It has been design to be used in laravel project but can be used in other project, but it has so much pendencies and some of symphony, knowing that tiki also used to dependcy of symphony.
It can generate PNG or JPG file or SVG.

And the last one is ((https://github.com/splitbrain/monsterID|monsterID)), it a good tool, but i realised that, all avatar are PNG file created and stored on a folder ready for use, with can be easy replaced by ((https://packagist.org/packages/multiavatar/multiavatar-php|Mutliavatar)).

Some library where design to be use only with laravel (most) or for wordpress.

Hello, especially the Admin UI revamp team.

I love the new Tiki Admin UI, whilst I am quite massively missing a few nice ideas or our old one. When I supported the idea of a more WP-like approach, I never thought we would lose the old feature tiles panel, which has a lot of advantages in respect of time saving.

I suggest, that we could put it into a module and then add it to the list of standard admin modules, that can be optionally loaded into the admin dashboard.

Aswell there are a number of administration places, where the new admin dashboard style is not yet applied. I assume that is just a matter of time and ressources.

Comments welcome.
Best regards,
Torsten
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Uploading an animaged gif image file that shows a bug reproduced is not an easy task tin dev.t.o.
I had to do that because the record rtc feature is not usable yet, and I wanted to reproduce the issue visually. I did that in an animated gif. I edited the corresponding [item7795|bug report], and uploaded the gif file throught the toolbar icon to "Choose or upload images".
I got the image uploaded (to the default location, I didn't change it, expecting "happy path"), but the wiki syntax automatically inserted seems to not be adapted to displaying gif images.
I recall that any plugin img param that attempts to resize the image converts it to png (or Tiki used to do so years ago), so that I removed the param to make a zoombox, I just left the param to indicate the fileId. But nothing was displayed in the parsed textarea of the tracker item once saved.

Similarly, going to the view file (icon shown from the since last visit module) showed nothing, which might trigger the falsse sensation that the file upload failed.
https://dev.tiki.org/file1?fileId=1562&view=page

But it didn't fail.
If you use the oldish syntax to display the image as an image, then it displays properly, as it can be reproduced here:
https://dev.tiki.org/item7795-Cannot-use-Record-RTC-page-self-refreshed-before-accepting-perm-to-record

Couldn't we get that plugin img when using fileId param to automati8cally display the gif image as image when the plugin notices that it's a gif image indeed?
Somehow...
HTH

The global navbar color assigned on tiki-admin.php?page=look is ''always'' applied, so when assigning a menu module and giving it a parameter like "navbar_class=navbar navbar-expand-lg navbar-light bg-light", when the global pref is "dark", this is the result in the page source: -+ <nav class="navbar navbar-expand-lg navbar-light bg-light navbar-dark bg-dark" role="navigation"> +-

The combination of color classes causes problems for link colors, etc.

There are times when, because of the theme colors, both navbar-dark and navbar-light are needed, like when the topbar zone has a dark background and the page footer has a light background, so when a per-module color parameter is specified on admin-modules, it should __replace__ the Look and Feel global setting, not be added to it.

When trackers are not present (perhaps lost or otherwise mistyped) a 500 (internal server error) is produced.

At the very least it should be throwing the correct error 404 (page not found), but ideally would produce a Tiki error reporting something like "Sorry that tracker does not exist" or something similar.

This situation of lost trackers happed on dev.tiki.org where trackers where lost:

https://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=4130
https://dev.tiki.org/tiki-view_tracker_item.php?trackerId=5&itemId=4129

They were indexed by Google and linked within the content of the tiki-sites. It looks bad flaunting server misconfiguration errors on our sites.

I stumbled upon this while googling something else (the documentation of Tikis Paypal interface):

https://github.com/romoxi/BobShop

The claim is "BobShop is a shopping cart system for TikiWiki. "

So far I haven't taken a deeper look. Has anyone else seen this? Or tested? Advantages/disadvantages compared to CART? Is this independent development or are the authors known or identical with Tiki devs?

I am asking those questions, because
* I am looking for something that accepts more than just Paypal
* Tiki Credit Card integration is in it's infancy

Thanks
hman

They would be nice to have easy to setup “predefined schedules” delivered within Tiki by default.
Rebuild sitemap, rebuilt-index, ping to an external service, etc...

We could also implement some mechanism for them to be turned on and off via preferences.
IE (TBD):
In Admin => Search => Indexes;
Do you want to allow the scheduler to rebuild the index on a regular basis ?
Every nnn minutes (1440 = a day)

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The current (as of 25.x) way the form UIs (whether for settings or trackers fields or whatever) lets the tiki help icons "after the setting widget" wrap onto the next line when the widget is full-width, is problematic for a number of reasons, including:

* It creates visual confusion as the beginning of each line is different, and since all those elements are very colorful (ex: in the default theme both the checkboxes and the info icons are blue, which makes it harder to tell them apart quickly when scanning the page);
* It causes row heights to vary needlessly, which is unpleasant;
* It eats more precious vertical space than it should, which causes needless scrolling, with pages up to twice as long;
* It looks and "feels" broken (or "dangling"), visually, which impacts the first impression people¹ get of the software.

My guess is that Tiki lets those things wrap when it shouldn't (maybe using some sort of non-breaking space character, or a div containing both the form field and the related things?)

The only exception I can envision is long explanation labels, those make sense to have on a separate line.

Please see the attached screenshots (and mockups), this will make the problem self-explanatory; compare image no1 vs no2, and particularly no3 vs no4 which illustrate very well the change in the "global feeling" and compactness of the layout when you do this for many fields.

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Image no5 shows how this problem also affects Tiki Tracker list tables and such where there are editable cells with clickable icons/buttons in those cells. Those shouldn't wrap either, they should stay on the last line of the contents (or maybe vertically centered in the cell, or top-aligned?) :

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¹: Humans don't like things that are "dangling" in general... this is exactly why Batman asked Robin to [https://youtu.be/QnFOs7QlJSI?t=12|hand him the shark-repellent bat-spray] to get rid of a dangling shark.

At https://tiki.org/tiki-syslog.php we have a link to "Log SQL".
If we click on it we have the following error.

{CODE()}
×
Error
This feature is disabled: adodb
{CODE}

The link shouldn't be displayed if the feature is disabled.

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A new page can be created by creating a link to it and clicking that link afterwards. But when done in conjunction with namespaces, it happens that the first namespace component gets doubled.

To reproduce:
# Create a page called "foo:_:bar"
# Add an internal link to it: ~np~((foo:_:bar:_:baz))~/np~
# Click on that link. You get forwarded to this page: "foo:_:foo:_:bar:_:baz"

The new page can then be renamed in order to get the desired result.

Seems it is back...

On fresh install (new db) after filling admin new password and email you are redirected to the wizard.

If you close it (toggling show on start) you are redirected to -+tiki-index.php?page=HomePage+-, the HomePage

It show an error:
Error

Page not found
HomePage

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First visit for new admin experience is critical...

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On fresh install (new db) after filling admin new password and email you should be redirected to the HomePage (showing the wizard by default).

However, I soon as you submit the admin information you are redirected to an error page:
Error

Page not found
HomePage

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If I refresh the page or if I type mydomain/HomePage in the URL bar, page it is still not found.

If I click on the "Home" item of the menu I’m redirect to tiki-index.php and I can see the homepage.
From this point HomePage exist and can be accessed entering the address in the url bar from wiki page list, etc.

The wizard is lost in space.
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In the image you can see lots of space for a nice background image to be placed along the top. How do I add an image here. I have tried hacking the css and scss but its not ideal. Can you place a module in the topbar to hold an image background

I don’t receive anything from dev since we move it to Tiki19.

If you click (two times...) in order to sort the Wishlist by modification date descending (btw., IMHO this should be the default...), the alleged latest edits are reported to be from Dec. 21. I have opened modified two other bug reports this year, and the list of recent changes shows them, but somehow they are not listed at the top of the Wishlist, at least not above Dec. 21 ?! See screenshot...

Thanks
hman

The label on the pagination tools at : https://dev.tiki.org/tiki-admingroups.php are not properly vertical aligned:

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It may be there is some "legacy" styles (before bs4), once removed all align properly.

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Finally it look ok

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What do you think ?

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Still ugly in Tiki25

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