Category: Interaction (with the outside World)

Tiki has a basic feature to generate slides from wiki page data. This permits to prepare slides collaboratively and makes them highly available/searchable/accessible.
http://doc.tikiwiki.org/Slideshow+User

However, the feature is not very exciting.

1- I do not want to rely on an external service to distribute my
slides. I want to put on my TikiWiki-powered sites. And I want them to
be searchable & accessible. An export to Flash is not ideal.

2- I want something standards-based to make sure I can use when I am
not using my computer (like at FOSDEM). Sure, Regis did an amazing
presentation at the last TikiFest, made with Keynote. But now, how to
share, mix and re-use?

3- I want a way to collaborate (when preparing) & share slide
information in an easier fashion.
a) I have done dozens of presentations. The collaborative process
using desktop tools is very inefficient. I remember a long night in a
hotel room in Tunis where we where collaborating over Skype to
fine-tune a presentation.

4- As Dogfood, I think these slides could help to
A) Make nicer tutorials/documentation
B) Promotional material on info.tikiwiki.org

5- Finally, I want something much nicer than what we have now. The
quality/design/features of S5 reloaded has nothing to be shy about
compared to Desktop apps:
http://www.netzgesta.de/S5/reloaded/advantages.php?id=sunny_gfx

Some goodies I look forward to using:
A- A second browser window which shows me a timer and some notes.
B- A special syntax to handle handouts.

6- Some of the concepts (ex.: image resizing depending on current
browser size) could be useful for Tiki in general.


Here is a proof of concept of
Wiki page:
http://trim.rclaporte.com/svn/slides/tiki-index.php?page=tests5reloaded
Slides:
http://trim.rclaporte.com/svn/slides/tiki-slides.php?page=tests5reloaded



Investigate:
http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/
http://www.netzgesta.de/S5/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S5_%28file_format%29
http://icant.co.uk/domslides/

Ideal:
Long-term collaboration/integration of one of these, or a similar open source project

Perhaps with ((jQuery))?

Please see:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Support/ScreencastsPRD

Also:
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=screencast&product=support.mozilla.com&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=exact&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=|SUMO bugs with word screencast]


Related: ((WebDAV)) to ease management of files.

This would be very useful as we move documentation from tikiwiki.org to doc.tikiwiki.org, for example.

For data interchange with other systems too.

Like Ricks99's great work:
http://tikiwiki.org/tiki-view_blog_post.php?blogId=26&postId=302

current plugin (from mods)
http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki/mods/trunk/wiki-plugins/submit/wiki-plugins/wikiplugin_submit.php?view=markup

Ex:
http://www.stumbleupon.com/tag/tikiwiki/

Please see:
http://www.addthis.com/

Here are some options
http://framework.zend.com/manual/en/zend.service.akismet.html
http://bad-behavior.ioerror.us/
http://antispam.typepad.com/
http://www.defensio.com/
http://mollom.com/

See: ((Spam Protection))

Please see:
http://www.wikimatrix.org/wiki/feature:CREOLE%20support
http://www.wikicreole.org/wiki/TikiWikiCMSGroupware

Related:
http://dev.tiki.org/Why+Wiki+Syntax+is+Important
http://dev.tiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=2007-07-18+IRC+MediaWiki+discussion&highlight=creole
http://tiki.org/RFCWiki


Related:
*[wish1531|Wiki markup for icons]
*[wish1805|Universal Wiki Edit Button]
*[wish2102|Support some of the MediaWiki syntax that doesn't conflict with TikiWiki syntax]
*[wish1843|Infoboxes like MediaWiki/Wikipedia, but making use of trackers to be future-proof]
*[wish1220|MediaWiki import script]

Please go to "Syntax Examples" here:
http://www.wikimatrix.org/compare/TikiWiki-CMS-Groupware+MediaWiki

Please also see:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Wikitext_examples

Some syntax could be supported as it doesn't really conflict with the existing.

__Basic formatting markup__
{img src=images/code.png}%%% {CODE()}
You can ''italicize text'' by putting 2 apostrophes on each side.

3 apostrophes will '''embolden the text'''.

5 apostrophes will '''embolden''' and ''italicize''
'''''the text'''''.
{CODE}


__Signature/timestamp__
{img src=images/code.png}%%% {CODE()} You should "sign" your comments
on talk pages:
- Three tildes gives your
signature: ~~~
- Four tildes give your
signature plus date/time: ~~~~
- Five tildes gives the
date/time alone: ~~~~~ {CODE}

__Section headings__
{img src=images/code.png}%%% {CODE()} == Section headings ==

''Headings'' organize your writing into
sections.
The ''Wiki'' <u>ab</u>
##software can automatically
generate a [[table of contents]] from them.

=== Subsection ===
Using more "equals" (=) signs creates a subsection.

==== A smaller subsection ====

Don't skip levels,
like from two to four equals signs.

Start with 2 equals signs not 1
because 1 creates H1 tags
which should be reserved for page title. {CODE}


However, links & images could be more problematic.

Related:
*[wish1531|Wiki markup for icons]
*[wish1191|Wiki editing: Preview with diff, like Mediawiki]
*[wish1843|Infoboxes like MediaWiki/Wikipedia, but making use of trackers to be future-proof]
*[wish1781|Support for the Wiki creole markup (syntax)]
*[wish1220|MediaWiki import script]

Maybe some of you will think of this as a "marketinhg" thing, but let's face it : for most users on the Web "wiki" is synonym with "MediaWiki-powered sites that look like wikipedia".

What I propose is to create the theme and tools to facilitate migration of mediawiki powered sites to tikiwiki the (very) easy way : fill a form during install that points to the Mediawiki database, and extract all the info to automagically populate the Tiki. I'm willing to participate, but I do not feel I have the required knowledge at this moment to be able to do something useful in the coding part : I know little to no PHP or MySQL stuff, I even wasn't able to install Tiki properly here (shame on me).

Currently, the remove_all_versions function, defined in tikilib.php, accepts page as a parameter. It would be ideal if the function could be modified, or a new function created, that accepts username as a parameter. This would be ideal in instances where, for instance, several hundred pages have been created by a given user. The pages could be removed en masse, rather than having to specify each page specifically.

When I am in Firefox, I should be able to add an RSS feed directly (one click instead of login, and copy & paste)

Goal: to add a way to represent relevant data in a timeline.

This will most probably be done by re-using an existing library and/or service.

Let's coordinate here: ((TimeLine))

It is impossible to activate various Functions...

In the Administration Menu under "Editing and Plugins" it is impossible to activate functions like "google analytics" and lots more... everytime I want to save I get a "permission denied"
{CODE()}Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /content/tiki-admin.php on this server.{CODE}

The Module is unusable right at the moment...

I did:
- disable the searchengine friendly urls
- did a complete reinstall
- applied chmod 755 over everything

Nothing did work...

Please see:
http://universaleditbutton.org/

Related:
*[wish1781|Support for the Wiki creole markup (syntax)]


In testing now on:
http://wiki-translation.com

Commit:
http://tikiwiki.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tikiwiki?view=rev&revision=13295

Tiki newsletter works well for small volumes.

But for large volumes, as with any web app, sending emails from a server can be a challenge. Risk of being flagged as spammer, high server load/difficult to throttle, limits from your web hosts (ex.: max x emails per hour), etc

A helpful alternative would be something like this:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/4883

So my Thunderbird client or desktop newsletter application (ex.: [http://gammadyne.com/mmail.htm|Gammadybe Mailer]) should be able to access the TikiWiki database to generate recipient list.



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Another approach is to make the Tiki contacts (address book) accessible via the LDAP protocol and thus, email clients can access.

Related:
http://www.egroupware.org/egroupware/index.php?menuaction=wiki.uiwiki.view&page=AddresbookAccountsConcept

Our friends at [http://www.horde.org/imp/|IMP] offer a feature to view various file formats without having the viewer installed on your desktop.

Beyond viewing, we could want a way to import to a wiki page. Since this is a broad topic, we'll coordinate on ((Binary File Handling)).

MediaWiki/Wikipedia has an interesting way of dealing with meta-data concerning a wiki page. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Infobox|Infobox] is very flexible and is very suitable to an encyclopedia. It's easy to create new ones and they are very flexible to adapt to the topic. As soon as a bunch of pages have something in common, you can create one and it gives visitors and quick overview of what characteristics this entry has.

There are over a hundred of these templates:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Infobox_templates

Here is a simple one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Animal

Here is a more advanced one where special language codes, when parsed, are shown with a nice presentation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Babel

This is a great way to have ad-hoc, organically growing meta-data around wiki pages which share some sort of structured/comparative data.

In TikiWiki, we use ((doc:trackers)) for tabular data. We need to have an even tighter integration.

Goal: that the metadata be stored both in the wiki page and the trackers
That you can update in one or the other. This would permit us to make lists/tables with all the data from all the infoboxes, without duplicating the data. (not sure if/how to do this with MediaWiki)

We'd need a Wiki Page field-type in trackers. Say I have an "Animals" tracker with all the Meta-Data. One of the fields should be the name of the associated wiki page. And that wiki pages "knows" to get latest data from tracker (like we do now for ((doc:PluginTrackerList)) and ((doc:PluginTrackerItemField)).



{img src=images/code.png}%%% {CODE(caption="2008-06-22 on #mediawiki on freenode.net", wrap=1)}
[09:48] marclaporte: Say I have lots of data in various infoboxes, is it possible to make a report/list/table of all these infoboxes and have them link to the various wiki pages?
[09:48] Splarka: you can use Special:Whatlinkshere on each infobox
[09:48] Splarka: (sorta)
[09:49] marclaporte: tks, would you know of an example?
[09:51] Dantman|FS: SMW
[09:51] Dantman|FS: Doing that with data is basically the purpose of SMW
[09:52] Splarka: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Infobox_Aircraft
[09:52] marclaporte: There are some lists here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_software -> how to reuse that info in infoboxes on each page
[09:52] marclaporte: tks
[09:53] marclaporte: Splarka: : yes, that's what I am looking for
[10:05] marclaporte: Splarka: : So now I know where the template is used. What if I want to make a mega chart for all the planes from all the infoboxes?
[10:06] Splarka: well, that might be something more for the category system
[10:06] Splarka: (or ask Dan about SMW, unless he means Super Mario World)
[10:08] Dantman|FS: heh
[10:10] marclaporte: Dantman|FS: : What is SMW?
[10:10] Dantman|FS: Semantic MediaWiki
[10:10] Dantman|FS: http://semantic-mediawiki.com/
[10:11] Dantman|FS: It's an extension for MediaWiki
{CODE}

!!Other things to think about:
*When watching a wiki page, how to watch tracker(s) which are associated with that wiki page?
*In page editing of tracker data, have a quick & nice interface like the ((doc:dynamic variable)) feature

Related:
*[wish2102|Support some of the MediaWiki syntax that doesn't conflict with TikiWiki syntax]
*[wish1191|Wiki editing: Preview with diff, like Mediawiki]
*[wish1781|Support for the Wiki creole markup (syntax)]
*[wish1220|MediaWiki import script]

I found the other day a chat that looks like is no more on develpment and is used to chat over irc (nice way to chat) is named Eteria IRC and u can find it at sourceforge (http://eirc.sourceforge.net/)

Might this be usefull to change the chat (that in my opinion) that does not work right.

I post this cuz the few times i used the tiki's chat module gave me a few problems with cpu usage and db's saturation

Hope u find this usefull for new vers for the tiki's chat module.

When I first met Tikiwiki, I was looking for only a wiki program. The translating for page (multilingual) feature of Tikiwiki made me to choose it.

But I always wonder: does Tikiwiki really need to have so many features ?

We all know that multi-features software is more complicated for developers as well as users than single-feature software. For example, Tikiwiki has a forum built-in, do you think this forum is better than phpBB3 ? Tikiwiki also has an article feature, do you think this feature is better than Joomla! CMS ?

At present, I have a website built with Joomla, I want to add a new wiki section, but Joomla has no wiki component. In fact, I think we should combine these best softwares together, not re-create the wheel. Joomla doesn't need to build a new wiki component if we can integrate Tikiwiki with it. In fact, this integration only needs at least one function: synchronize the users so they can login in to Tikiwiki without register twice.

I should inform you that Joomla! will be the most popular CMS soon, so I hope the Tikiwiki team take some time to consider this integration suggestion.

Thanks.

http://fotonotes.net/
http://wikifarm.koumbit.net/wikigraphe
http://kryogenix.org/code/browser/annimg/annimg.html



A nice usage example:
http://flickr.com/photos/36381329@N00/2190723280/

There's a Gedcom viewer (for Genealogy researchers) that's called PhpGedView (www.phpgedview.net) that looks like a completely awesome online family tree viewer/updater. Looks really well done. There is already a module written for it for PhpNuke, and I think it would be pretty cool if a module was written to interface it with TikiWiki.

If we had this, we'd use it on http://dev.tikiwiki.org

The Trac Repository Browser:
http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracBrowser

Let's coordinate here: ((Repository Browser)) and ((Code Review))

((doc:InterTiki)) permits to share login, preferences and groups between various Tiki sites.

We need the Sister Wiki too!
http://www.wikimatrix.org/wiki/feature:SisterWiki
Continue discussion here: ((Sister Wiki))

((doc:backlinks)) are very cool. But what about backlinks from other sites?

We could use list from:
http://doc.tiki.org/External+Wikis


Related:
[wish2086|Backlinks between trackers and wiki pages (and maybe forums)]
[wish1768|Tracker plugin to get title and make link to tracker item]

Button does not accept any separtators other than '_' in _text variable.

There are many reasons to create button with two or more words on it.

The plugin Exercise is a nice way to for students to get feedback on their learning. For an instructor or an admin it would be very useful to have a way of checking student's success. That way, the instructor could evaluate how easy the material is, or if certain students need extra help with something.

As far as I understand, right now exercise input data is not stored in the database so there is no way to track the exercise outcome. It would be great if a table could be added to the database where the this data could be stored and accessed.