History: 20070609SkypeChatlog

[[11:15:42 AM] Marc Laporte added Xavier de Pedro to this chat
[[11:15:50 AM] Marc Laporte says: ok, this should be it
[[11:16:09 AM] Marc Laporte has changed the chat topic to "TikiFest198"
[[11:17:08 AM] Marc Laporte says: hi
[[11:17:26 AM] Marc Laporte added luciash d' being aka Lukáš "luci" Mašek, Nelson Ko to this chat
[[11:17:35 AM] Marc Laporte says: Alain?
[[11:17:34 AM] Xavier de Pedro says: hi
[[11:17:44 AM] Marc Laporte says: Did we lose Alain?
[[11:17:51 AM] Alain Désilets says: I can chat but I can't hear
[[11:17:59 AM] Xavier de Pedro says: neither can I
[[11:23:17 AM] Marc Laporte added Dave Thacker to this chat
[[11:24:35 AM] Marc Laporte says: Dave?
[[11:25:40 AM] Marc Laporte says: dave: you are coming in
[[11:39:39 AM] Marc Laporte says: Dave: ask your questions here
[[11:40:50 AM] Xavier de Pedro says: Marc, Gary joined but he needs to be invited to the conference
[[11:41:13 AM] Marc Laporte says: ok, I will invite Gary
[[11:41:18 AM] Xavier de Pedro says: great
[[11:41:38 AM] Marc Laporte says: Dave: please ask your questions here!
[[11:43:00 AM] Xavier de Pedro says: I don't have
[[11:43:04 AM] Alain Désilets says: www.cardmeeting.com
[[11:43:06 AM] Xavier de Pedro says: BTW, canyou hear me?
[[11:43:27 AM] Alain Désilets says: community ID is C1405
[[11:43:33 AM] Dave Thacker says: Alain, java will not load for me. sorry
[[11:43:38 AM] Alain Désilets says: pwd is hawai! (with trailing !)
[[11:49:02 AM] Xavier de Pedro says: I could log in to carmeeting, indeed (nice!)
[[11:49:14 AM] Marc Laporte says: cool!
[[11:50:12 AM] Dave Thacker says: somebody please add zero support install
[[11:50:49 AM] Marc Laporte says: Dave: I just added a card for you!
[[11:51:09 AM] Dave Thacker says: install without having to contact anybody for questions
[[11:51:18 AM] Dave Thacker says: "It Just Works"
[[11:51:39 AM] Dave Thacker says: I want the user to have an easy experience
[[11:52:10 AM] Dave Thacker says: easy install more users
[[11:52:17 AM] Dave Thacker says: yes
[[11:52:36 AM] Dave Thacker says: good
[[11:52:40 AM] Marc Laporte says: :)
[[11:54:59 AM] Dave Thacker says: yes, more money
[[11:59:10 AM] Dave Thacker says: easier for communities without IT professionals to install TikiWiki?
[[12:00:40 PM] luciash d' being aka Lukáš "luci" Mašek says: re
[[12:00:49 PM] luciash d' being aka Lukáš "luci" Mašek says: ok, how can i hear you again ?
[[12:00:50 PM] Marc Laporte added francisco athens to this chat
[[12:01:45 PM] Marc Laporte says: new user: Francisco is with us
[[12:01:47 PM] Nelson Ko says: we are using cardmeeting now.
[[12:02:02 PM] Nelson Ko says: to brainstorm
[[12:02:02 PM] francisco athens says: hello tikifest
[[12:02:17 PM] luciash d' being aka Lukáš "luci" Mašek says: hello francisco
[[12:02:26 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: Marc, lukas request to hear the voice...
[[12:03:02 PM] Dave Thacker says: Dave is the admin for a small IT dept that wants to use a wiki for documentation.  Please add
[[12:03:54 PM] Marc Laporte says: Lukas is online in audio
[[12:04:10 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: and Lukas' kids also :)
[[12:04:12 PM] francisco athens says: Marc is a father and wants to use Tiki to keep track of his childrens development as well as track bugs
[[12:04:30 PM] francisco athens says: this would be useful for me too
[[12:04:48 PM] francisco athens says: as I'm currently using the Gallery2 script
[[12:05:40 PM] Dave Thacker says: Fred is the webmaster for a youth football(soccer) league that wants to use a wiki to post schedules and results. please add
[[12:06:53 PM] Dave Thacker says: yes, Dave knows Linux and has installed apache
[[12:07:06 PM] francisco athens says: Joey has a mediawiki wiki and phpbb  forum and would like to migrate to tikiwiki.  
[[12:08:53 PM] francisco athens says: <muted mic input>
[[12:12:21 PM] Marc Laporte added Gary Cunningham-Lee to this chat
[[12:13:25 PM] luciash d' being aka Lukáš "luci" Mašek says: i've muted my mic in kmix setup i hope you don't hear my son anymore ;) (hm, Alain is too loud compared to others, isn't he ?)
[[12:13:45 PM] Marc Laporte says: I still hear some kids in the background
[[12:13:50 PM] Marc Laporte says: (note sure where)
[[12:13:58 PM] francisco athens says: hehe I always hear kikds in the bg
[[12:14:28 PM] Marc Laporte is really happy to have all these people online
[[12:14:38 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: :)
[[12:14:45 PM] Marc Laporte says: (thank you Alain, Skype and CardMeeting)
[[12:19:56 PM] francisco athens says: Lori is college student who wants to use tikiwiki as a front end for her internet radio show
[[12:20:22 PM] Dave Thacker says: woot, my card meeting is up!
[[12:20:56 PM] francisco athens says: hehe
[[12:21:37 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: :)
[[12:23:08 PM] Nelson Ko says: hi francisco,
[[12:23:18 PM] Nelson Ko says: why joey is using phpbb and mediawiki for?
[[12:23:37 PM] Nelson Ko says: for what purpose?
[[12:24:00 PM] Marc Laporte says: maybe they want to have a wiki and a forum in single sign on
[[12:24:25 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: (reasonable)
[[12:24:35 PM] francisco athens says: Joey was using MW and phpbb for a community portal and wants to use something more integrated
[[12:24:38 PM] Marc Laporte added mlpvolt to this chat
[[12:24:40 PM] Dave Thacker says: yes.  
[[12:24:58 PM] francisco athens says: Joey was me long ago
[[12:25:24 PM] Marc Laporte says: ( I know that feeling!!!!!!!)
[[12:26:07 PM] Dave Thacker says: hehe
[[12:26:39 PM] Marc Laporte says: who is not on cardmeeting?
[[12:26:45 PM] luciash d' being aka Lukáš "luci" Mašek says: me
[[12:27:02 PM] francisco athens says: I think TW excells at getting ppl to join a community, because some folks prefer to blog, post on forums, or edit wiki pages and TW has all of these
[[12:27:35 PM] francisco athens says: however I sometimes get feed back that the interface can get rather complicated with so many features.
[[12:27:36 PM] luciash d' being aka Lukáš "luci" Mašek says: CardMeeting ID ?
[[12:28:02 PM] Marc Laporte says: it is listed on tiki.org/tikifest198
[[12:28:09 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: C1405
[[12:28:20 PM] luciash d' being aka Lukáš "luci" Mašekis the one most interested in simplification ;)
[[12:28:22 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: Community Id: C1405
[[12:28:39 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: Community Password: hawai!
[[12:28:41 PM] francisco athens says: "Discovering TW for the first time"
[[12:28:46 PM] luciash d' being aka Lukáš "luci" Mašek says: Invalid Meeting ID format: Meeting ID's start with an 'M' followed by digits
[[12:29:06 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: YEs, I got the same before luciash...
[[12:29:36 PM] Nelson Ko says: go to "list all meetings of gcommunity/"
[[12:29:53 PM] Nelson Ko says: and put C1405 in the community ID box
[[12:30:10 PM] Dave Thacker says: who want to get versatile tool up quickly
[[12:30:18 PM] francisco athens says: because they are not gentoo users
[[12:30:34 PM] Dave Thacker says: lol francisco...
[[12:31:29 PM] Dave Thacker says: yes, that's a good point stay focused on task
[[12:31:46 PM] francisco athens says: I wonder if there is a possibility for a TW live disk that can install to a remote server?
[[12:32:20 PM] francisco athens says: yeah there might be several TW setup examples running on the live CD
[[12:32:55 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: francisco, that would be lovely :)
[[12:32:56 PM] Marc Laporte says: we have a live CD somewhere, but that only takes them to a default install, which is too complex for new users
[[12:33:16 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: "somewehere": http://tiki.org/TikiLiveCD
[[12:33:26 PM] Marc Laporte says: tks xavi
[[12:33:27 PM] Dave Thacker says: in less than 60 minutes 
[[12:33:26 PM] francisco athens says: tikibuntu
[[12:33:45 PM] francisco athens says: or damnsmalltiki
[[12:33:46 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: "tikibuntu" :)
[[12:34:03 PM] francisco athens says: DSL is a very quick boot
[[12:34:11 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: DSL-Tiki: :)
[[12:34:35 PM] francisco athens says: time to reboot the kids
[[12:34:51 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: DSL-Tiki-LiveCD: I tried but I left it since it was not i18n properly for non-english keyboards, etc.
[[12:34:52 PM] francisco athens says: or put them in chroot jail
[[12:35:54 PM] Dave Thacker says: or security.  (documentation)
[[12:36:40 PM] luciash d' being aka Lukáš "luci" Mašek says: i don't see the link "list all meetings of gcommunity/" on http://cardmeeting.com/
[[12:36:57 PM] Nelson Ko says: below the box you tried
[[12:37:17 PM] Dave Thacker says: luciash, use the C1405 code and password in the bottom two boxes, then select this meeting from the page you receive.
[[12:37:28 PM] Nelson Ko says: I want to see  list of all of my communities' meeting...
[[12:37:34 PM] Nelson Ko says: bottom 2 boxes on left side
[[12:37:42 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: tw.o/Tiki1Fest98 updated: Where it says: "I want to see a list of all of my community's CardMeetings", log in with:
[[12:38:30 PM] luciash d' being aka Lukáš "luci" Mašek says: got it, thanks
[[12:38:37 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: welcome
[[12:39:21 PM] Dave Thacker says: are we wandering off into features......?  
[[12:39:32 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: ?
[[12:39:51 PM] francisco athens says: maybe some thumbnails in the template install linking to screenshots so users can "see" what their install might look like?
[[12:39:57 PM] Marc Laporte says: (maybe we are, sorry if we are)
[[12:44:18 PM] francisco athens says: wikicasting?
[[12:44:25 PM] Marc Laporte says: :)
[[12:44:30 PM] francisco athens says: tikitossing?
[[12:44:37 PM] Marc Laporte says: LOL
[[12:45:11 PM] Marc Laporte says: we need more tikiprofiles (and an easy way to make tikiprofiles)
[[12:46:09 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: http://tiki.org/TikiProfiles
[[12:46:13 PM] Marc Laporte says: http://doc.tiki.org/Profile
[[12:46:21 PM] Dave Thacker says: fish hobbyists.  useful for a any hobbyist organization
[[12:46:25 PM] francisco athens says: fishclub! I've been looking for one 
[[12:46:49 PM] Marc Laporte says: http://doc.tiki.org/Profile
[[12:48:15 PM] Dave Thacker says: so we need to move profile descriptions from feature list "tasks you want to accomplish"
[[12:48:17 PM] francisco athens says: fishywiki
[[12:53:17 PM] Dave Thacker says: yes! yes! yes!
[[12:54:02 PM] Dave Thacker says: joomla has a hierarchal (sp) menu structure
[[12:54:34 PM] luciash d' being aka Lukáš "luci" Mašek says: joomla administration sucks :P
[[12:55:14 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: yes, wizard concept is ok
[[12:55:34 PM] francisco athens says: there is obviously some strong joomla opinions among TW users..
[[12:57:28 PM] Nelson Ko says: are you online?
[[12:57:36 PM] Dave Thacker says: and there he goes...
[[12:57:38 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: nop
[[12:57:40 PM] francisco athens says: perhaps they could just see some examples
[[12:57:48 PM] francisco athens says: oh dear
[[12:57:48 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: voice went away...
[[12:57:52 PM] Nelson Ko says: marc is currently offline
[[12:57:55 PM] Nelson Ko says: one sec
[[12:57:59 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: ok
[[12:58:01 PM] Nelson Ko says: trying to recover
[[12:58:28 PM] Gary Cunningham-Lee says: Hmm. No more audio here.
[[12:58:35 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: using this moment to add profile page to contents structure in doc.tw.o :)
[[12:58:51 PM] Dave Thacker says: threw another green card in
[[12:59:15 PM] francisco athens says: who is physically at the TW conference?
[[12:59:22 PM] francisco athens says: er Tikifest
[[12:59:30 PM] Marc Laporte says: we are 3
[[12:59:30 PM] Alain Désilets says: Did you all loose my audio?
[[12:59:40 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: I did loose it
[[12:59:43 PM] francisco athens says: I dont hear anyone
[[12:59:44 PM] Nelson Ko says: yes. audio is lost at the moment
[[12:59:46 PM] Dave Thacker says: yes
[[12:59:46 PM] Alain Désilets says: Weired
[[1:00:00 PM] Nelson Ko says: because marc lost connectivity
[[1:00:00 PM] luciash d' being aka Lukáš "luci" Mašek says: who is most stable online ?
[[1:00:13 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: I'm in again
[[1:00:24 PM] luciash d' being aka Lukáš "luci" Mašek says: create the room and invite others ?
[[1:00:24 PM] Marc Laporte says: this is fun!
[[1:00:27 PM] luciash d' being aka Lukáš "luci" Mašek says: ah me too
[[1:00:31 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: :)
[[1:00:32 PM] Dave Thacker says: i hear audio
[[1:00:36 PM] Gary Cunningham-Lee says: :)
[[1:00:42 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: (my first time ever on a voice chat) :)
[[1:00:51 PM] francisco athens says: audio is back from me to
[[1:00:55 PM] Marc Laporte says: I lost my connection and since I was the host, you all lost it
[[1:01:01 PM] Dave Thacker says: blue cards
[[1:01:19 PM] Marc Laporte says: :) :)
[[1:02:10 PM] francisco athens says: I think an average user installing TW will have issues with TW server processing/ram requirements... 
[[1:02:24 PM] luciash d' being aka Lukáš "luci" Mašek says: i have trashed my blue card :)
[[1:02:33 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: :)
[[1:03:59 PM] francisco athens says: how can that user import existing data easily? like from another CMS or excell db?
[[1:04:29 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: from other db: difficult. From excel db: through tracker or spreadsheet import...
[[1:04:38 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: (through CSV)
[[1:04:42 PM] Dave Thacker says: Please repeat the name of the concept?
[[1:05:43 PM] Marc Laporte says: sorry
[[1:05:06 PM] Dave Thacker says: no audio again...
[[1:05:06 PM] Nelson Ko says: hello?
[[1:05:06 PM] Alain Désilets says: lost audio again
[[1:05:12 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: gone again
[[1:05:30 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: thanks nelson
[[1:05:39 PM] Dave Thacker says: got it
[[1:06:24 PM] francisco athens says: good question
[[1:06:36 PM] Dave Thacker says: Please repeat the name of the error correction concept you just spoke about. 
[[1:07:18 PM] francisco athens says: hmm maybe an an irc interface in the install script ^^
[[1:08:20 PM] Dave Thacker says: Useful:  establishing the user focus.  Identifying the users.   
[[1:08:27 PM] francisco athens says: tikiwiki_user: "I'm in the middle of a TW install and I'm lost!"
[[1:09:27 PM] Dave Thacker says: itching synergy!
[[1:09:32 PM] Marc Laporte says: :)
[[1:10:40 PM] Dave Thacker says: yes'
[[1:10:41 PM] francisco athens imagines telling his boss "I'm trying to get our itches scratched"
[[1:10:49 PM] Dave Thacker says: sounded like sandman?
[[1:10:57 PM] Alain Désilets says: Jeff Patton
[[1:11:00 PM] Alain Désilets says: He's my mentor.
[[1:11:02 PM] Alain Désilets says: Great guy.
[[1:11:10 PM] Alain Désilets says: Buy his book when it comes out.
[[1:11:19 PM] Marc Laporte says: :) :)
[[1:11:32 PM] Dave Thacker says: yes, you said he talked about a concept that he had not written about much.  What was that concept?
[[1:11:58 PM] Alain Désilets says: It's called a Span Plan
[[1:15:07 PM] Dave Thacker says: ok, I'm following.  
[[1:15:12 PM] Dave Thacker says: Yes!, thanks!
[[1:16:45 PM] Alain Désilets says: http://www.abstractics.com/papers/HowYouSliceIt.pdf
[[1:17:07 PM] Dave Thacker says: got it.  thanks!
[[1:18:09 PM] Alain Désilets says: alain.desilets@nrc-cnrc.gc.ca
[[1:18:17 PM] Dave Thacker says: Thank You!
[[1:18:27 PM] Marc Laporte says: Thanks Alain!
[[1:18:31 PM] Gary Cunningham-Lee says: thanks.
[[1:18:33 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: bye
[[1:18:38 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: (and thanks)
[[1:19:06 PM] Dave Thacker says: ok, I'll go buy a microphone
[[1:19:34 PM] Marc Laporte says: ok guys!!
[[1:19:39 PM] Marc Laporte says: we get some some food
[[1:19:46 PM] Marc Laporte says: you guys can continue :)
[[1:19:47 PM] francisco athens says: nice chatting with you all
[[1:19:52 PM] Marc Laporte says: and do all the hard work
[[1:19:54 PM] Nelson Ko says: same here
[[1:19:56 PM] Dave Thacker says: I'll check back at 1430 EDT
[[1:20:01 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: same here
[[1:20:04 PM] Marc Laporte says: so when we come back, we will feel like heros
[[1:20:12 PM] Marc Laporte says: :)
[[1:20:35 PM] francisco athens says: maybe I'll have my avatar made by then
[[1:20:39 PM] Dave Thacker says: ok, later all
[[1:20:47 PM] Xavier de Pedro says: see you later
[[1:20:51 PM] Gary Cunningham-Lee says: cya

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