History: Docs

! Feedback
!! Michiel
{QUOTE()}[02:55]  michiel_l: marclaporte: indeed it works nicely
[02:55]  michiel_l: I've edited and saved a document successfully.
[02:56]  michiel_l: w.r.t. the save options you might want to add some more possibilities: "Return to file menu" and "Save as [               ]"
[02:57]  michiel_l: But of course what you now have is already a huge breakthrough!
[02:58]  michiel_l: Have you considered using the thumbnail from an ODF file in the gallery view?
[03:00]  michiel_l: And one final question: somehow I ended up with multiple versions of the same file ODT.odt
[03:00]  michiel_l: It was not possible to distinguish between the two of them
[03:01]  michiel_l: Maybe the file gallery should have the possiblity to show the time of saving?
[07:48]  marclaporte: Yes, thanks for this feedback
[07:49]  marclaporte: (This is exactly what we need){QUOTE}

! Todo ASAP
* Update with latest code from: https://gitorious.org/webodf
** Done 2013-05: http://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/45963
* --[http://irc.tiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2013-01-15,Tue&sel=38#l34]-- fixed: http://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/45945

! Todo list for 8
* Buttons
** Add a download button
** Add a "go to file gallery" button
* [http://www.webodf.org/redmine/issues/56|Add "edit properties" button] of WebODF
* Add "edit properties" of Tiki File Gallery
** Add a link to WebDAV editing (if webDAV is activated)
* Make page refresh go to most recent unless history is what is requested
** Same issue we had with drawings
* Perhaps a cleaner interface for editing, so doc can be see
* --Improve [http://profiles.tiki.org/Category_Transition_Demonstration|Category Transition profile] of how you could use Docs with ((doc:Category Transitions)) to make a document workflow (with a customizable approval process).--
*Ask before start, make contextual menu for docs show up on edit for this and draw
! Nice to have for Tiki8
* After you edit an odt file with WebDAV, it's no longer possible to edit via WebODF (link is missing)
** If I try to edit directly: "Wrong file type, expected application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text"
*** http://demo.tiki.org/draw/tiki-file_archives.php?fileId=8 old files can be accessed by WebODF but not newest one (because it was edited via WebDAV)
* Add version locking

! Todo eventually
* Side-by-side comparison (version history with playback)
** We want this for images too
** See note about "[http://webodf.org/apps/|Change tracking demonstration]" 

! Questions
* [http://www.webodf.org/redmine/issues/30|In webODF, CTRL-B makes the text bold. So why not add a toolbar?]
* Are feature-checks and permissions all checked properly? (At one point, they weren't and user could see view/edit ODF even if feature was off)
* Should we have a docs plugin, to embed in wiki pages?

! Who
* Robert Plummer
* Jos van dev Oever (of WebODF).
* Marc Laporte

! 2013-01-15 discussion
{CODE(caption="#webodf IRC 2013-01-15")}(3:34:42 PM) The topic for #webodf is: http://www.webodf.org  &&  https://lists.opendocsociety.org/mailman/listinfo/webodf
(5:10:59 PM) peitschie: morrnin :)
(5:21:21 PM) marclaporte: There has been a lot of work lately. Congrats!
(5:27:39 PM) th: hey guys
(5:27:54 PM) th: marclaporte: you refer to our latest push to gitorious?
(5:28:04 PM) marclaporte: yes
(5:28:27 PM) th: aye - we also try to keep the collaborate branch in fast-forward position with master
(5:28:40 PM) th: sometimes we are forced to delay pushing to the public
(5:28:51 PM) th: but in the end it will all be available
(5:29:15 PM) marclaporte: So there has been a lot of new code since we integrated in Tiki
(5:30:01 PM) marclaporte: So do we need to just replace these two files? http://sourceforge.net/p/tikiwiki/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/lib/webodf/
(5:31:05 PM) th: marclaporte: i think one change for you should be that .css is now integrated
(5:31:26 PM) th: marclaporte: most (i guess _all_) editing code that materialized is irrelevant for you because you can still use content editable
(5:31:58 PM) th: marclaporte: ack. webodf.css is obsolete and contained in webodf.js these days
(5:32:02 PM) Jyhem_laptop [~libs@85-168-216-146.rev.numericable.fr] entered the room.
(5:32:04 PM) th: so now only one file
(5:32:15 PM) marclaporte: th: that is even better!
(5:33:04 PM) marclaporte: so how is support for .odt vs .odp vs .ods ?
(5:33:09 PM) th: marclaporte: also: the webodf build-process outputs a viewer.zip now. which contains all bootstrapping
(5:33:22 PM) th: marclaporte: only minor improvements
(5:33:32 PM) th: marclaporte: another new thing: there is a wordpress plugin now
(5:33:38 PM) th: http://blog.thzn.de/wordpress/
(5:33:49 PM) th: (thats just an empty blog for demoing)
(5:34:11 PM) th: the gray chrome there is part of the viewer.zip as well
(5:34:32 PM) pedor [~quassel@187.114.0.122] entered the room.
(5:34:32 PM) RobertPlummer [~robert@75-145-174-149-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] entered the room.
(5:34:40 PM) RobertPlummer: Hey guys.
(5:36:58 PM) th: hi RobertPlummer
(5:37:13 PM) th: tiki front waking up?
(5:37:29 PM) marclaporte: RobertPlummer: see what you missed: https://dev.tiki.org/Docs#discussion
(5:38:20 PM) RobertPlummer: :)
(5:38:32 PM) marclaporte: th: http://irc.tiki.org/irclogger_log/tikiwiki?date=2013-01-15,Tue&sel=31#l27 
(5:38:38 PM) th: oh i do feel logged now
(5:38:41 PM) RobertPlummer: I'm impressed you are now parsing ods now.
(5:39:15 PM) RobertPlummer: Are you building the editing interface yet?
(5:39:30 PM) th: we were doing odt,ods and odp from the beginning
(5:39:39 PM) RobertPlummer: jQuery.sheet, hint hint.
(5:39:48 PM) th: RobertPlummer: we have simple collaborative editing for odt finished
(5:40:08 PM) RobertPlummer: th, wow, bug free?
(5:40:21 PM) th: RobertPlummer: of course not. nothing is bugfree.
(5:40:37 PM) RobertPlummer: :)
(5:40:39 PM) RobertPlummer: True
(5:40:43 PM) th: RobertPlummer: it's not done yet. but i'm still very optimistic
(5:44:24 PM) marclaporte: th:  real time?
(5:45:06 PM) th: marclaporte: yes
(5:45:11 PM) RobertPlummer: I need to step away for a bit, I'll stay connected for the log.
(5:45:12 PM) th: marclaporte: char by char
(5:45:49 PM) marclaporte: th: what is technology?
(5:46:29 PM) th: marclaporte: OT basically. nowjs as transport layer (but can be exchanged, we have tested http and pure ws as well)
(5:46:48 PM) th: operations are sent to a server instance which broadcasts them to clients in the session
(5:46:55 PM) th: OPs are then replayed locally
(5:50:01 PM) marclaporte: demo?
(5:51:31 PM) th: not yet
(5:52:05 PM) th: at least not publicly yet, we could probably arrange something in private at another time (when i'm in the office)
(5:54:17 PM) marclaporte: Related to http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2043165/operational-transformation-library ?
(5:56:22 PM) th: that is the OT i mean. no shared code though
(6:01:01 PM) marclaporte: interesting{CODE}


! Links
* http://www.webodf.org/redmine/projects/webodf/issues
* http://code.google.com/p/odtview/
* ((Realtime)) WebODF in OwnCloud: http://doc.owncloud.org/server/7.0/user_manual/documents.html

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