Usability improvements for File dialog (icon in wiki page editor)
- Status
- Closed
- Subject
- Usability improvements for File dialog (icon in wiki page editor)
- Version
- 6.x
- Category
- Usability
- Feature
- Edit interface (UI)
File Gallery (elFinder or standard UI)
PDF - Resolution status
- Fixed or Solved
- Submitted by
- alain_desilets
- Lastmod by
- Ushindi Gedeon
- Rating
- Description
Table of contents
- Problem Summary
- Issue 1: Type should have a reasonable default
- Issue 2: Pick a file link looks more like a caption than something you can click on
- Issue 3: Too easy to miss the Upload button
- Issue 4: Not clear that you have to click on the file name after uploading
- Issue 5: Insert button is not clear.
Problem Summary
The dialog structure for uploading a file and adding a link to it in wiki page is much better than it was, thanks to the introduction of the File icon in the toolbar of the wiki editor. But it is still cumbersome and error prone. Here is the process below and the usability issues that I found at various spots.
- Click on the File icon
- Pick File Gallery/Archive in Type
- Click on Pick a file link
- Click on the Upload File
- Click on the Browse button
- Click on Upload button
- Browse the file system and pick the file.
- Once the file is uploaded, click on its name.
- Click on Insert button
Besides the fact that this is long, there are many places where it is misleading to the user (details later). I had to try this more than a dozen times, clicking on different items, to figure out how it works. And I had help from some experts on the mailing list!Fortunately, there are a number of very small fixes that we could implement to address those issues. See below for a discussion of the various issues and proposed fixes.
Issue 1: Type should have a reasonable default
Currently, the type is set to empty. It really should be set to either File Gallery/Archive or Attachment by default. Personally, I would favour File Gallery/Archive, because I think it's generally a bad idea to attach files to a wiki page, because it limits your ability to link to those files from other pages. But the point is: the value should default to what users most commonly use.
In some cases, the picklist only has one option in it anyways (ex: if the feature for attaching files to wiki pages is off). In those cases, then the picklist should DEFINITELY default to that single value.
Fix: Set the Type to a sensible default... I vote for _File Gallery/Archive__Issue 2: Pick a file link looks more like a caption than something you can click on
I never realized that I could click on it to choose the file. Someone had to actually point that out to me. Others on the mailing list have said that they need to point this out to users all the time.
Fix: Change the link to a buttonIssue 3: Too easy to miss the Upload button
Once you click on pick a file link, you are presented with the general screen for navigating and managing the File Gallery. But at this point in time, you are only intersted in uploading or choosing a file from the gallery, and seeing this complex dialog is very disorienting. In my case, I managed to miss the fac that there was an Upload button on that screen, and I thought I had mad a mistake and someone pressed the wrong button or link in the previous screen. I had to go back to the previous screen several times and click on different things, and finally come back to clicking pick a file, and then I saw the Upload button.
Fix: Instead of having a single Pick a file link (well, button, if we implement the fix to Issue 2), we should have two buttons: Upload and Choose from Server. Or something like that (I can't think of a good workding). The Upload button will take you directly to the place you currently get to after clicking on the Upload button in the File Gallery screen. The Choose from Server button will still take you to the File Gallery navigation and management menu.Issue 4: Not clear that you have to click on the file name after uploading
In Step 8, there is nothing that tells you you need to click on the file name after you uploaded it. I went through the whole process several times and it never occured to me that I had to do this until someone from the mailing list told me.
Note that there is a message to that effec that appears if you hover the mouse over the file's name. That message really should be visible at all times, not just when you hover over the file name.
Fix 1: Make it so you don't need to click on the file name altogether.
Fix2: If that's not possible, at least put a very prominent messages saying that the user needs to click on the file nameIssue 5: Insert button is not clear.
In Step 9, you are back at the original pop up, and you need to click on the Insert button, otherwise the link to the uploaded file does not get inserted.
Again, I had to do the process several times before realizing I had to do this. My natural tendancy was to close the popup, either by Xing it or clicking on the Close button. The result is that the file does not get inserted on the page.
I think the problem is that the two buttons at the bottom say:
Close Insert
And you naturally tend to click on the first of these two, i.e. Close.
Fix: Change the order and caption of the two buttons as follows:
Insert link | CancelAlso, if the user clicks on the X to close the window, the link should be inserted (in other words, Insert link should be the default). The reason is that it's easier to recuperate from that error (you just need to erase the link) than to recuperate from the other error (you have to start again from the beginning, to insert the link).
- Solution
- See problem description for the solutions to the various issues raised.
- Workaround
- Grit your teeth and ask lots of stupid questions on the mailing lists 😀
- Importance
- 7
- Priority
- 35
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- Ticket ID
- 3844
- Created
- Friday 08 April, 2011 13:57:07 UTC
by alain_desilets - LastModif
- Tuesday 30 June, 2026 16:42:09 UTC