Saving in WYSIWIG removes Edit Section buttons; saving in Wiki restores them; Wiki edit option disappears when doing a section edit
- Status
- Closed
- Subject
- Saving in WYSIWIG removes Edit Section buttons; saving in Wiki restores them; Wiki edit option disappears when doing a section edit
- Version
- 6.x
- Category
- Conflict of two features (each works well independently)
- Usability
- Feature
- Wiki Syntax (text area, parser, external wiki, etc)
WYSIWYCA (What You See is What You Can Access)
WYSIWYG (What You See is What You Get) - Resolution status
- Fixed or Solved
- Submitted by
- frankb
- Lastmod by
- Ushindi Gedeon
- Rating
- Description
If you save a page in WYSIWYG, Edit Section buttons disappear. (However, if just before saving, you Switch Editor to wiki, the Edit Section buttons will (re-)appear 😉)
Note also separate bug #3764, i.e. the Switch Editor button does not appear if your edit is invoked by a Edit Section button. This makes the first bug very discouraging for new contributors.
This bug is a big issue for sites wishing to encourage collaborative editing, especially with longer pages:
- Having Edit Section buttons at each heading cries out 'Edit me! Edit me!'. If they disappear, it is much scarier for a beginner to edit a page.
- If someone bravely uses an Edit Section button only to find that it has disappeared as a result of their work, they may think they no longer have edit rights. They will think the site is stupid, and be greatly discouraged re further editing.
- Solution
Perhaps this is due to wysiwyg stripping wiki internals, which would suggest that Edit Section buttons depend on internal text 🙁, instead of depending on Wiki Admin's Edit Section settings.
- Workaround
In wysiwyg admin,
Set 'WYSIWYG Editor is optional' to on
Set 'WYSIWYG Editor is displayed by default' to off
Set 'Reopen with the same editor' to off
This will have the effect that users can only get into wysiwyg mode if they edit the whole page and click on Switch Editor, and if they are that clever you might be able to train them to switch back to wiki mode before saving.BUT, this means most users don't see wysiwyg.😢
- Importance
- 7
- Priority
- 35
- Demonstrate Bug on Tiki 19+
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This bug has been demonstrated on show2.tiki.org
Please demonstrate your bug on show2.tiki.org
Show.tiki.org is not configured properlyThe public/private keys configured to connect to show2.tiki.org were not accepted. Please make sure you are using RSA keys. Thanks.
- Demonstrate Bug (older Tiki versions)
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This bug has been demonstrated on show.tikiwiki.org
Please demonstrate your bug on show.tikiwiki.org
Show.tiki.org is not configured properlyThe public/private keys configured to connect to show.tikiwiki.org were not accepted. Please make sure you are using RSA keys. Thanks.
- Ticket ID
- 3763
- Created
- Wednesday 26 January, 2011 03:49:40 UTC
by frankb - LastModif
- Tuesday 30 June, 2026 14:57:04 UTC