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PluginTogether should replace the url associated with the Edit page button so that co-editors are automagically offered to go to the session with collaborative edition instead of the warning of edition conflict

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Open
Subject
PluginTogether should replace the url associated with the Edit page button so that co-editors are automagically offered to go to the session with collaborative edition instead of the warning of edition conflict
Version
18.x
21.x
22.x (future, currently trunk)
Category
  • Usability
  • Feature request
  • Community projects
  • Dogfood on a *.tiki.org site
  • Less than 30-minutes fix
Feature
Edit interface (UI)
Resolution status
Confirmed
Submitted by
Xavier de Pedro
Keep informed
Victor Emanouilov, Marc Laporte
Lastmod by
Xavier de Pedro
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(1)
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Description

See first the box saying "Even better" below.

"PluginTogether should replace the url associated with the Edit page button so that co-editors are automagically offered to go to the session with collaborative edition instead of the warning of edition conflict" (was "Clicking on PluginTogether on a wiki page should provide a CoEdit button next to Edit with the right url for all.")

This would be useful for taking meeting minutes collaboratively in the TRM and TAG meetings, both which take precious time from some active tiki community members but with little time to do things properly (wasting precious time in this note-taking task instead of being able to invest it in other areas requiring their help too).


I've been trying to use tiki for many semester with my students at uni but I can't get them to use it with realtime collaboration with ease, so that they move to googledocs.

This minor usability change would be probably enough to convince teams to use tiki realtime collaboration feature with plugin togetherjs.
Like ourselves when taking notes on a roundtable meeting, or tiki admin group meeting, etc.

Even better
Even easier for the end user would be to just offer a user that sees the concurrent edition warning box, a link to carry on and convert the session into a togetherJS session in which both users continue writing together. In the backend, tiki would probably:

  1. A new general preference should be added for this new behavior to be enabled
  2. when user A clicks at edit a wiki pageFoo, the url that would be created by PluginTogether is stored in tiki mysql tables somewhere, with a semaphore/flag or similar so that tiki knows that this page has been started edition and the url to allows others to go into the same edition session collaboratively.
  3. when user B clicks at the Edit button of the same pageFoo, while still being edited by userA, userB sees the warning of edition conflict unless userB accepts to request to userA to enter into the collaborative session.
  4. If userB accepts to request that coedition to userA, then UserA would see some warning about that request from userB in some popup/modal/or similar, with the option to accept and get his edition saved and restarted as online collaboration among both, or reject the request, and keep writing himself alone in that page.
  5. therefore, save the edition in place by user A (the one that started editing the page first)
  6. reopen that page for edition for user A with te url adapted to the togetherjs session, and
  7. send user B to the edition session with togetherjs (or alternatively, show userB the same link to open the page for edition).
  8. if userA accepted userB to write together, they both are working with TogetherJS on that page. And in that case, when other users such as userC clicks at edit the wiki pageFoo again, userA gets the same message requesting to confirm to accept new users getting the collaborative session, and when accepted, since the TogetherJS is already on, there wouldn't be any need to restart the edition session with togetherJs since it would be already in that mode.


This is currently partly working in 21.x LTS :

  • user is sent automagically to open the session without "Warn on edit conflict"
  • ... BUT the together session fails to display the other users being there editing the page concurrently:
    • therefore, a new version is saved, without noticing that the versions will not be seen by each other: Edit Conflict triggered.


To reproduce the updated problem info:
Come here with two different browser engines (or one in provate browsing and hte other in normal, as usual to test this feature):
http://xavi-9794-6160.show2.tikiwiki.org/tiki-index.php?page=HomePage
user1:
u: admin
p: 12345

user2:
u: user
p: 54321

  1. Click on button of the side module "Co-Write with TogetherJS"
  2. Edit homepage as user1 (admin) in browser engine1 (e.g. firefox)
  3. Edit homepage as user2 (user in browser engine2 (e.g. chromium)
    • accept the popup asking to join session


problem triggered: none can see that the other user is editing the page, saving, moving elsewhere, etc.

Tiki21 Plugintogether Issue Side2side

Importance
9
Easy to solve?
6
Priority
54
Demonstrate Bug
This bug has been demonstrated on show2.tikiwiki.org
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For the install log, see http://xavi-9794-6160.show2.tikiwiki.org/info.txt

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Ticket ID
6160
Created
Wednesday 02 November, 2016 18:34:16 GMT-0000
LastModif
Wednesday 01 April, 2020 10:37:54 GMT-0000

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