In 3 of the 22 themes (Coalesce, Ohia, and Strasa) the critical action buttons are missing when trying to translate pages. In 18 themes these button show up. In one theme (Utopias) them are partly off the screen, but present enough to click them.
All screen captures taken from demo.t.o/12.x (this site) on 12 Octover 2013, while the site was running 12.0svn rev. 47983 (of 11oct2013; 12:44 CEST).
This situation is reproducible by anyone logging into demo.t.o/12.x/ as admin, then selecting any page (in the screen captures below, I selected "Page to test translation features"), then either:
a. from the left menu, under "Translate Updates" -> "Outgoing" select one of the languages available (currently French and Korean) and click the leftmost button (with pop-up description of "update it" in English), or
b. click the Translate button, and choose to translate into a new language (one other than the ones for which translations already exist.
1. Here is the way the screen should look like, when updating a translation (theme:Fivealive):
2. Here's the way it looks (without action buttons) in Coalesce (same in Ohia and Strasa):
3. Here's what it looks like in Utopias (buttons partly cut off at bottom of screen:
As one can also see, in ALL themes, the titles of both the left and right parts of the screen overlap, i.e. the left part does not wrap in its half, but this is a relatively minor irritant.
The missing buttons prevent users using the system with the themes that don't work.
olaf-michael stefanov (omstefanov), 12 October 2013
sorry, even with r48198, as shown in the show.t.o instance generated by me, omstefanov, the problem isn't really fixed, just moved along a bit. See http://omstefanov-10438-4801.show.tikiwiki.org. (use username "admin" with password "12345", and try translating changes to page "Page to test translation features" into French. You'll see you cannot scroll to beyond bottom of "French" (or other target) language's screen page.
Not seeing that lack of scrolling on (Mac) Firefox, Safari and Chrome both side scroll ok if the window is small enough, however, i am finding it only goes full screen every other time you reload - so will try fix that for now, maybe try a screen capture?
Hi again Jonny, Olaf here again. As you ask, here are screen captures that show the problem, using the show.t.o instance I generated and is listed here ( Last update from SVN (12.0svn): Monday 28 of October, 2013 18:41:51 CET - REV 48198). These show the problem in Firefox 24, Chrome 30 and Safari 5.1.7, each the latest browser version available for my Windows 7 Ultimate PC.
In Firefox 24:
In Chrome 30:
In Safari 5.1.7:
I get the same results on my Linux Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal (except there screen captures are a bit more difficult for me, so I captured them from Windows). In Linux I was also using Firefox 24.0 and Chromium 28. I don't have Safari on Linux.
As you will see from my screen captures, I did all previous testing using the coalesce theme. I have subsequently also tested using Ohia, as I noticed in the SVN updates that you, Jonny Bradley, appear to have done updates in r48069 to Ohia, but none to coalesce.
The effects (unable to scroll to the bottom of a longer page in side-to-side edit on the left side which is the one being edited, is the same problem with theme Ohia, than with coalesce. Actually, it is also now a problem with the five-alive theme too.
A description of newer version of error (TRANSLATE FROM half of side-by-side screen remaining empty) already sent to Jonny Bradley off-list, 4 Nov, as follows:
I've now created a completely new page at http://omstefanov-10438-4801.show.tikiwiki.org/ svn-up'd to r.48325.
Here are the STRANGE results!!! :
YOU CAN TRY THIS TOO, as the site is accessible to you. http://omstefanov-10438-4801.show.tikiwiki.org/
1. First I created a page, specifying its language as being German (although contents are English) (name: "New 4 Nov German page".
2. The I used the translate button to create an English translation (name: New 4 Nov English apge (German is original)". I was "freaked out" by the results. I get a side-by-side view, with the English copy open for editing on the left, while the "German" original page which should appear on the right being basically an empty screen half. (see image 1 below).
3. I edit the English "translation" a bit, so that tiki will tell me I have a partial translation. Fine. I choose the option to "Update FROM the English to the German (original) version. I get a beautifully matching set of page halves, the German TO BE EDITED TO on the left, the English FROM version on the right. (see image 2 below)
4. I view the German page as a wiki page, make a monolingual edit. Tiki offers the button to allow me to bring the English up-to date. (Update the English from the German.) Once again, however, the German (SOURCE language) half of the screen remains empty - except for the edit comments I added during monolingual edit. (see image 4 below).
5. I repeated this a few times. I always get the German source on the right, if I'm editing the English. I always get a right half containing no source text, if I'm editing the German. (see images 3 and 5 below).
Image 1: I've just asked to translate a page indicated as a German original into the target language English:
Image 2: After making a change to the "German original" in monolingual edit, I try to match target lang English in side-by-side, but right remains empty):
Image 3: After making another edit to the "German original" in monolingual edit, I try to match target lang English in side-by-side, but right half still remains empty):
Image 4: After doing a change to the English, I try to do a translate FROM English to German. Here both halves show up correctly.
Image 5: Another, 3rd attempt to translate TO the original 2nd language, English, FROM the original 1st lang, German. Again the right half remains without text: .
While my show.t.o site for this item ran (and still runs) on r.48325, I have, following Pascal's query about the completion of this bug, redone all these tests on a localhost copy running r.48452 from Friday 15 Nov 15:42 CET, and the problem is still exactly the same / as bad.
While the "Translation Complete", "Partial Translation" or "Cancel Edit" button are now visible, half of the side-by-side translation screen contents have disappeared, making the feature equally unusable, and a regression in 12x.
Somewhere between r48452 and the svn up I, omstefanov, did today, to r48628 (21 Nov, 2013 13:15:11 CET) the bug was fixed. Both sides of the side-by-side translation edit now appear.
Thank you, to whoever (all) did this correction.
SIDE-BY-SIDE Translation is now, again, possible, and Tiki-12 can proceed to release. Yea, Beta !!!
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