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  drsassafras 02 Mar 18 15:23 GMT-0000

  A few thoughts while were brainstorming:

  +1 Quick Administration

  -1 Settings Menu

  I would like to see an administration navigation bar on the top of EVERY admin page, not just the preferences.

  I imagine an administration area like our main preference admin, but encompassing all administration.

  Admin functions can be arranged into "groups" and while in that group the top-bar could show all the "group options" along with a way to get back to the "administration home"

  Quick Administration could show "related administration functions" based on assigning a group to a page, so if you're on a wiki page, you would get wiki related administration options, along with pared-down static options, such as "Clear All Caches" or other frequently used items.

  This way one can access quickly admin related functions from any page, and when they are on an administration page, it's obvious, because of the top navigation bar. The idea would be to present related options so one does not have to hunt for them or look in several places. I can't count the number of times I missed options while I was learning about Tiki.

  Also, an idea might be to introduce a "New" Option. We already mark our preferences with when they were introduced. Might it be nice to have a way to show a little "new" icon beside them for maybe 3 versions? That way configuring tiki between LTS versions may be a little easier. Could also perhaps extend this to other admin pages as well? Just a thought.

  It may also be nice to extend the same type of inline documentation that we have for our preferences to other administrative areas. Marking as experimental, warnings, hints, short hints, descriptions etc.
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  Gary Cunningham-Lee 25 Apr 18 08:36 GMT-0000

  A few questions:

  • Is the left-side menu in the left column of the page (div#col2), or is it off-canvas and slides into view? I assume it is a module assigned to the left column. I imagine the admin menu will be in a standard module that can be assigned as desired, and will be available to admins from any page on the site, just as menu 42 is now. Is this the idea? I often use non-admin navigation or other modules in the left column menu even from admin pages, and wouldn't want to lose them when I'm on an admin page.
  • Since the admin search bar is in the quickadmin dropdown, will it also be kept in its original position above the admin icons? Will it be confusing to have two admin search forms, then? Is there any thought about having admin gadgets in the quickadmin dropdown and not in the main page, when quickadmin is activated (module selected), and having the admin gadgets in the main page if quickadmin is not activated? In other words, to avoid duplication, the gadgets would be in one place or the other depending on quickadmin being activated or not.
  • The quickadmin module is activated by default, but optional (can be deactivated). So presumably the same will be true for the enhanced quick admin bar. (I rarely use quickadmin and recent admin actions dropdown, and usually deactivate them to de-clutter the page top). If quickadmin is deactivated, I assume all of its functionality will still be able to be found in the admin dashboard itself, as is now possible.
  • A big problem now is new users not knowing some prefs/features are hidden because "advanced" prefs aren't displayed. Does this admin revamp have a proposal to handle the clutter-vs.-simplicity problem related to prefs levels (basic, advanced, experimental, etc.); that is, will people still have to realize there is a prefs filter to configure, or is there another way to sort basic, advanced, etc. levels of prefs that's more intuitive and less problem-prone?
  • I don't understand the purpose of the admin icons in the quick admin bar - don't they duplicate the left-side menu items? Is this duplication intentional? Is the idea that a site might choose the quick admin bar or the left-side menu, in which case there wouldn't be duplication?